the folded-over or closed holster body toe of the pictured 1924 example that twin belt loops were added to the holster rear. This was removed and the hilt was shortened accordingly. It is possible the second conversion was even later, around the start of WW2, and if true would As a result, the young police officers are faced with new tasks, which prove to be all the more difficult since the new police not only ward off the risks of political and economic struggles, but above all are supposed to be brought back to their actual previous activities. Chapter 4 3rd Reich Police Lugers Chapter 5 DDR Deutsche Volkspolizei (People's Police) Lugers a complete catalog of Police Luger Markings The book has . Regarding the S. H.133. Police unit marked on the back is S.B.13.435 (Municipal Police, Berlin unit 13) as described by the seller. Was it a difference in caliber or what is obvious that I am missing. ad[0]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/germanmilitaria.jpg'; ad[6]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash2.jpg'; 7: 505: . The last numbers on the line indicate the item number of the item that was Opening the loading tool cover flap reveals the original brown leather. The Police holster rear is stamped with the P.08 pistol issue number or serial number 1021. Lugers and P38 Markings MarshalZhukov 4.55K subscribers Subscribe 238 Share Save 122K views 13 years ago This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38. the 1915 P. Braunleder Cln cut-back Artillery to Police holster, fully inserted in the original, unmodified cleaning rod pouch/sleeve, a cover flap modified by adding a section of leather, allowing the cover flap to completely close over the seven ring wooden barrel Police cleaning rod handle, that is maybe why the upper brass stud was added to the subject cut-back unidentified maker Artillery holster, simply to allow the cleaning rod cover flap to close over the cleaning rod handle, the cover flap secured to the lower brass stud is clearly stressed, even without an inserted cleaning rod and definitely could not close with an inserted cleaning rod, being the addition of a second, higher located brass stud, the necessity of adding a section of leather, attached above the original cover flap location. issued to a unit; e.g., the 351st P08 pistol issued to the Schutzpolizei Landjaegerei (rural constabulary), Assigned to Pictured is an unknown maker German Police Caliber 7.65mm - 4.75" barrel. These considerations must form the basis for the training of the police officer. DWM Luger Identification Guide. We've been wringing out the SFAR for several weeks and, with the first 500 rounds in the rearview, decided to go for some quiet time. Pictured is a brown leather 1934 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst L police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 6710; view 1 and view 2. links[1]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; On the rear cover the books contents are further described as: Der amtliche Leitfaden fr preuische Polizeibeamte or The official guide for Prussian police officers. This is a standard 1934 Model gun designated by collectors as the '39 Mauser Police Banner that was ordered from Mauser for the Police use. Translated cover of The Police Pistols, Dresden manual. Here are the rare Lugers (PHOTOS). Die neue Reichs= und die preusishe Bersassung haben bereits einige wichtige Orgnzungen ersahren: weitere Gestze sind in nachster Zeit zu erwarten. Captain Ernst Roehm, future head of the SA [Sturmabteilung, a.k.a. Kriminalpolizei (detective force), Assigned to Pictured is a similar aftermarket P08 and police stick-wing acceptance stamped muzzle protector disassembled. The holster conversion was similar to the below example 2 except that it is stamped on the rear with the original holstered police Luger serial number 5008, and fortunately the holster still retains the matching 5008 serial number stamped loading tool. These cut-back LP.08 holsters were used or at least modified/converted until 1928 when a new style of police holster was introduced without a holster spine attached cleaning rod sleeve, replacing it with a spare magazine pouch. The exact date or time frame of the second conversion is uncertain, which could have been in the late 1920s or early 1930s. Pictured is a 1941 dated OTTO SINDEL BERLIN police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1, The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. Remnants of the original artillery holster body up-strap attachment are visible; the cover flap keeper strap and the brass stud were removed and the hole was plugged in the cover flap and a belt buckle/strap closure, as stated above was added. The TBLAP kit was made for rifles and pistols, whereas the subject kit was specifically made for pistols as indicated by the 220mm, short length pull-through chain. WWI History after Treaty of Versailles: German production of 9mm pistols was prohibited. The chamber marking represent the military contract year of production and this example is a 1918 dated Luger. view 3. Click here for English translation. Brown would be rural. (113P) DWM 1920 Police Rework Luger Pistol . Pictured is a 1942 dated A. Fischer Berlin C.2 police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1 and view 2. It didn't really have to exactly comply or match others issued to a military unit preparing for battle. Pictured are two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle and multiple views of the subject Police holster, being view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. S.B.13.435 - Berlin unit 13 - Pistole s/n 9140e. 413 or Landjgerei Gumbinnen; view 1 and view 2. Since the first edition was published in February d. Zs. 13005 or Schutzpolizei Berlin property number stamping located on the holster rear, to the right of the belt loops, with the Hannover and Berlin districts being 283 kilometers apart. Individual cases are put together and explained in a practical way using many examples. This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both Buenos Aries and German markings. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. For those looking at the other end of the scale, there are a number of Mauser-produced byf Code WWII-era guns popularly known as black widows that are priced with estimates starting at $900. German: Foreign Mfg. He should conscientiously fulfill his obligations, should be professional in his measures, be in touch with the public, but also act strictly against obvious violations, on the other hand avoid all incidents or even abuses by which the mood of a considerable part of the population is even more against those Police are involved when it is unfortunately already the case. Genuine German Luger - Largest Variety of Lugers Offered. 19-130 text caption picturing a cut-back LP.08 holster: that the converted LP.08 artillery holsters were not reconverted by the decree of August 1928 and so retaining the LP.08 cleaning rod pocket (pouch), modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop. 45a and in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols a.k.a. A good example of that was the 1927 and 1928 Simson lugers, they have been shown to be incorrect and wrong. a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger, The third is a late 1920s sear bar and magazine safety, German acceptance stamped E/WaA66 Police Luger s/n 4559t. This statement appears to be somewhat contradicted, where earlier on page 1262 Fig. As Dwight's database shows, most of the blank toggle Lugers have "t" and "u" serial number suffixes. of "P". The Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.G. another cut-back Artillery to Police holster, An examination of the P. Braunleder Cln cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass stud shows a completely different shape of style and size, of the two different lower and upper brass stud shapes of the subject cut-back Artillery to Police holster. though provides no picture. Below are some other HZa manufactured holsters and Ingolstadt marked parts. With the reorganization of the police carried out on 6 October 1920, the factual responsibility of the new police has been considerably expanded. Additionally, pictured below are pages 94 and 95 of WOL showing an early supply poof E/HZa.JL.16, two army equipment depot proofs E/HZA.J.L.3 and HZA.JL.78 with the J representing building and L representing Lager or Depot and the digits representing the depot number. No Longer Available. Note the non-standard vertical location of added metal belt buckle and strap/keeper cover flap holster, the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked, the bottom edge of the holster body inner liner, Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s. Example 2. WaAJL16. allow citizens to protect themselves from looters, armed gangs, and Sturgess in TBLAP also states that the new police cleaning rods were issued to each police pistol, further stating in the Fig. 1. The front of the frame is correctly marked "GERMANY" over the full serial number, indicating export outside of Europe. Einwohnerwehr had a membership of hundreds of thousands and was K.W.K. Regarding the necessity to modify a cut-back Artillery to Police holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve to accommodate a Police cleaning rod is questioned, as the 1915 P. Braunleder Cln cut-back Artillery to Police holster, as stated earlier, was acquired with a Police steel shaft cleaning rod with brass stopper, fully inserted in the original, unmodified cleaning rod pouch/sleeve, albeit a cover flap modified by adding a section of leather, allowing the cover flap to completely close over the seven ring wooden barrel Police cleaning rod handle. No examples noted. Die moisten sind veraltet: andererseits sind in neuerer Zeit so viele Vorschriften hinzugetommem, gass es fr den Unfnger schwer ift, das Richtige herauszufinden. Bie der Reubearbeitung des Kap. 02-04-2013 08:55 PM by NoncomRetired. They're not Nazi at all, just Imperial German. The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. Regarding the use of the police cleaning rod in the field it can be used without the barrel affixed Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector. Post If you collect Lugers, you need this book. And in closing, a little German Police marching music Hoch Deutschland Marsch Hermann Richter Grosses Blas-Orchester der Schutzpolizei Berlin. Occasionally, one encounters a scaled-down, high quality Weimar era Police bayonet, which were private purchase by Police officers, of which these are considered to be "Dress" items. HIPO was organized under - and quite similar to -the Gestapo: Some uniformed to be visible, some civil dressed working in secrecy. We talked to a subject matter expert who repairs WW1 / WW2 h I. German Police Forces during the Weimar Era, [This information is lifted almost verbatim from Weimar and Early Also, recently in Strafrecht (Criminal Law) z. L. significant upheavals took place. is unknown. swiveling wooden barrel shaped handle, implying the police cleaning rods are a stand-alone tool. For more detailed information on the 1946 Dresden Police manual. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. It is very tiny. The military character and No tool pouch. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 12 ----------------------------------------------------------, Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. presidents were stamped like the police schools, but with an "L" instead The lower attachment of the left belt loop has been crudely reinforced with wire, probably while in service. Pw.B. This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. Police Lugers is a work of research by Dwight Gruber and Edward Tinker that has taken innumerable hours over five years to tell the tale of the history and evolution of the police in Germany, specifically about their usage of the German P08 (Luger pistol). BACKGROUND: During the Weimar era, (circa 1919-1933) the largest of the independent German police forces was the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) in the newly established FREISTAAT PREUEN, (Free State/Republic of Prussia), within the Weimar Republic. Also, the large double crown U Mauser receiver proof was used for a short time only, less than a year, according to one Luger expert. this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. The second modification occurred in 1929 or possibly much later to comply with the new police holster requirements, by eliminating the cleaning rod sleeve/pouch and adding a spare magazine pouch. Below, a muzzle protector is shown attached to a Mauser Oberndorf Luger, s.n. Example 1. links[0]='http://www.GermanMilitaria.com'; The Fraktur typefaces were particularly heavily used during the rise of Nazism, when they were initially represented as true German script. German weapons and equipment until 1937, when unit marking of materiel was Pictured together for comparison are a Police cleaning rod with a brass stopper and a navy cleaning rod. A 108 is found in the upper right backside corner, what could be considered a Police serial marking? In a typical attempt to demonstrate its political autonomy, the federal The 662V serial number described in the text caption was substituted with 873V. Joachim Grtz in Die Pistole 08 2004, determined, which somewhat supports the above, earlier conclusion in Weimar Lugers, where on page 239 Grtz basically stated that: The police cleaning rod with the brass stop is unsuitable for carrying with the holster. not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers. violations of the Treaty of Versailles by the German police. The two-piece assembly can also be This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters. There is one unusual barrel sight band/block/blade condition will not allow the attachment of the variation 2 muzzle protector to fit over the P.08 barrel. The bayonets are interesting, as most were produced during the 1920s during the Weimar period. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. Due to the different design of the variation 1 muzzle protector this particular interference issue is not encountered. Holster is also marked Bahnschutz RBD Halle (S) (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. The actual marking is likely WaAJt18. Brown Shirts]) eventually joined the Nazi Party. A remaining question: who changed the 7.65mm barrels into 9mm barrels? 2. Hesse, Saxony, and others. droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. Pictured are view 1, view 2 and view 3 of the subject Police holster. the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. Chapter 4, p. 64 & Chapter 7, pp. Pictured for comparison are two different examples of Artillery holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass studs with demonstrably different shapes and sizes or dimensions. Used by Police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. For my database of police markings, could you tell me the serial number of this pistol and whether or not it has sear and/or mag safeties? Still 1993 on page 174, Fig. Einwohnerwehr marked E W B on pistol grips and rifle butts. As to whether any police Lugers were used in caliber 7.65 mm is uncertain, however, one example pictured in Luger Variations by Harry Jones 1959, page 291 titled: 1920 POLICE WITH CHAMBER MARKINGS with the claim that during police service the Sear Safety Luger was chambered for the 7.65 m/m cartridge. From the same time period is this beautiful DWM Swiss contract Model 1906 Luger sold on the commercial market in 1920s, and includes a vintage shooting medal from the Moudon, a historic town in the canton of Vaud in Switzerland. Since the Germans used the FN M1922 during WW2 it is curious that the 1950s U.S. influence of its police during the violence and disorder of the Weimar An inspection of other pre-WW1 Artillery holster/stocks in the collection shows yet another shape/style and size of cleaning rod pouch/sleeve affixed brass stud. 1928 (Undated) "Riff" Berlin Mauser Rig (Police) SOLD. The IMKK, Inter-Alliierte Militaer-Kontroll-Kommission (Inter-Allied The S.E.I. This is German WWI Naval crown m marked on the left receiver. Each state (Pomerania, Prussia, Silesia, etc.) All Luger pistols, produced by DWM after 1922 and until 1928(?) Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). It is, therefore, not necessary in some cases, as the above 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example shows, to modify these cut-back Artillery to Police holsters to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the leather flexibility, size and wall thickness varies between manufactures of WW1 Artillery holsters, specifically the cleaning rod pouches/sleeves from stiff, thick and less flexible leather to supple, thinner and more malleable leather, such as used with the 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example. My thanks go to all those who took the time and thought to participate in the discussion, and provided pictures and information for the survey. Per C. Kenyon in Lugers at Random, 1969, Section 8, page 250 GENERAL NOTES states that: very few of these early DWM/BKIW/Mauser Oberndorf assembled P.08s were made and very few of this variation are found with a Sear safety. pistols were rejected at the acceptance procedure it would explain that these were replaced with some pistols in the v block. Approximately 3,000 produced. is described in great detail on page 25, Figure 18, see page 137 of Eugene Bender's "Luger Holsters & Accessories" for a similarly marked holster, RIA 2013 Paul Goldner RBD Halle holster, sold for $3133, Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, RIA 2018, Bahnschutz RBD Halle S holster offering, Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris, This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other, later style, purportedly Magdeburg Depot rework Mg10 Stick Wing eagle stamps have been identified on the rear frame of P08 Lugers, Weimar eagle style E/Mg10 stampings of the 41 dated WwMg/41 and E/Mg10 P08 holsters, a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster, two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle, an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp, a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp, Only two are identified in publications and only partial pictures, made of impregnated pressed paper and is pictured in TPLAP, V3, page 1245 Fig. with the following rear cover page translations, of which both Volume I and Volume II front and rear covers are identical, with the rear cover upper paragraph statement: The "Guide" compiled in slides open to reveal five compartments containing: a folded, felt-like material cleaning rag. 31. I figured out the other markings from earlier posts. In Third Reich Lugers 1988 by J. Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help Estimated price on these beauties run between $3,500-$25,000. when raising the height of the cleaning rod pouch sleeve by adding a piece of leather, at the time simply removed or did not add the lower brass stud, extending the longer section, lower leather piece to where it covered the existing brass stud location. (motor transport seciont), Sonderwagenstaffel der Kraftfahrabteilung (armored vehicle squadron), Polizei-Reitschule (police equestrian school), Assigned to $500. Over all good condition. Furthermore, all books required for the use of the police schools in all areas of knowledge on the most favorable conditions are to be obtained from the assortment of the next edition. Pictured and described are Police Lugers in the collection, the first being 1908 commercial P.08 s/n 69859 shown with a period police holster. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, clearly indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example and not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded ERMA made muzzle protector. It has a 100mm (4") barrel, is modified as a police issue with a sear and magazine safety, plus it has a police unit identification markings. During the last war-winter, its members were the worse terrorists of all against their Danish countrymen. Hard to find historic variation. This was forbidden by the Treaty of The metal finish is in very good condition. The tube is in excellent condition with most . The gun was converted to a German Police Luger during the Nazi era sometime between 1928, the year of manufacture, and 1934 by adding a sear safety and forward gripstrap Police marking, longitudinally stamped "S.M. It is speculated that the shift was also motivated by the need to communicate with occupied territories during WW2 and the use of Fraktur would inhibit that communication. ad[8]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/JRBMbanner.jpg'; The serial number for the pistol is 4801 with a suffix of "t" which was mentioned as one of the possibilites by Ron. Potsdam = Oak*, in June 1921. Based on the year 1924 the holster is most likely brown. 1644 of the 49th centuria within II command, Dusseldorf (S.D. Opinion 2: I'm convinced that this is an Air Factory Werkschutz holster. The word itself 'HIPO' is a shortening in German of HIlfs-POlizei (i.e. The HZA stampings are described by Costanzo as being found on P.08 Lugers issued to security guards of military installations only, with no mention of the WaAJL16 being marked on P.08 style Police holsters. Still 1991, page 25 who also states the following regarding this variation. The lack of a holster maker on the rear, between the belt loops is not unusual considering its WW1 Imperial army origins, however, there is also no evidence of a maker mark under the cover flap. a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft, the pictured cut-back artillery to police holster, was modified to carry the police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, the police brass stop cleaning rod with a seven ring wooden handle cannot be inserted past the added, upper leather cleaning rod pouch section, securing cover flap brass stud as the bell-shaped, rather large 13 m/m diameter brass stopper, permanently affixed to the much smaller 5.5 m/m diameter of the steel cleaning rod, engages the protruding internal metal retaining lip of the added cleaning rod pouch brass stud, one would expect the resulting increase in height of the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve to require the higher relocation of the cleaning rod cover flap yet, interestingly, there is only one, apparently original cover flap stitching line evident as shown by an internal view, The purpose of the added entrance leather section with a second brass stud to the cleaning rod pouch is therefore unclear, and without removing the original brass stud creates a second barrier to inserting the cleaning rod, there is no issue with the insertion of a navy, six ring wooden barrel handle, 5.5 m/m diameter cleaning rod without a brass stopper, as it completely seats, allowing the cover flap to close over the wooden barrel handle with no interference. The magazine has a blued tube and aluminum base. HIPO as well as Gestapo had their informers. 127; view 1, It was initially issued to the Imperial German Army during WW1, was reworked by the police, and was issued to the Nazi police force during WW2. The Publisher. If you are looking for something similarly long, RIA has a Farsi-marked Persian contract Mauser Artillery Luger with an 8-inch barrel. The standard 6 barrel is marked Germany on the underside. Sturgess additionally describes the police cleaning rod in the Fig. This rare leather S.K.g 715 holster by Otto Stuertz Allenstein is in excellent condition. In der Organisation der Polizei sind Unordnungen von einschneidender Bedeutung fr die Regelung der einzelnen Polizeiartenergangen, ohne das der Uusbau dieser fr das Staatsleben so wichtigen Finrichtung schon zum Ubschlus gefommen wre. Otherwise, the magazine has no proof stamps or markings besides the serial number. 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